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#1 Ivor E Tower

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Posted 25 August 2004 - 12:03 PM

Is it possible to get front parking sensors fitted as well as rear ones, to make parking easy?
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#2 pork_pie

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Posted 25 August 2004 - 05:43 PM

Fraid not.

Accessories section on Citroen website only specify rear ones.

I would not be tempted to try companies who offer such a fitment.

Citroens multiplex wiring is suceptible to external influences like farting for instance
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#3 Ivor E Tower

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 11:55 AM

Oh no, not the dreaded multiplex wiring :o
Suspect that it makes life really difficult to fix any electrical accessories.
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Posted 26 August 2004 - 07:26 PM

Fraid so.

Most manufactures do multiplexwiring (to minimise payload and improve "effeciency") but most do it better than Citroen!

Was not permitted to add aftermarket electric rear windows because of this.
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#5 n_olympios

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 03:42 PM

Fraid so.

Most manufactures do multiplexwiring (to minimise payload and improve "effeciency") but most do it better than Citroen!

Was not permitted to add aftermarket electric rear windows because of this.

'm not sure this is entirely correct. True, the multiplex wiring has produced several problems in the Citroens (and Pugs), but it's far worse in the Fiats nowadays, as well most other brands now introducing similar systems in their cars. Try to find a Stilo owner, they'll tell you it's far worse than what you guys have been through.
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#6 pork_pie

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 06:44 PM

Fiat vehicles are a stinker of a product.

I have yet to visit the Fiat version of this forum and I guess it does not make good reading.

Is it true that Fiat customer service is also lightweight?
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#7 hertsnminds

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Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:52 PM

I owned a Fiat before I bought my Pluriel and I can say that Fiat forums are indeed busy places and Fiat dealers vary in quality of customer service just as much as their Citroen counterparts appear to.

However one thing that both Fiat and Citroen owners seem to have in common is a passion for their cars, because no matter how much the dealers (and manufacturer) may let them down there are enough redeeming features of the vehicles that make them loved.


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#8 pork_pie

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 01:18 AM

"However one thing that both Fiat and Citroen owners seem to have in common is a passion for their cars, because no matter how much the dealers (and manufacturer) may let them down there are enough redeeming features of the vehicles that make them loved"

That was definately the case with my old C3 Hdi Excl.

Even though I never want to drive or own another C3 again after my experiences, I still loved it to bits by virtue of its looks, spec and fuel economy and that always took precendence over the fact that it was the most unreliable car I ever owned. Each day with it was a wrist slitting experience.

My Xsara estate - not the most striking of vehicles I must admit but it serves its purpose very well. Nothing fancy - no cruise control or automatic lights/wipers nor alloys the lady can possibly scuff.
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Posted 30 August 2004 - 10:25 AM

Even though I never want to drive or own another C3 again after my experiences, I still loved it to bits by virtue of its looks, spec and fuel economy and that always took precendence over the fact that it was the most unreliable car I ever owned. Each day with it was a wrist slitting experience.

....same with my two B*W MINIs...

Except insert "handling" in place of "fuel economy".

Why would you want FRONT parking sensors on a vehicle with a bonnet as short as a C8 anyway? Your VisaII Super E had a longer bonnet, and I guess you never had them fitted to that!!?

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#10 pork_pie

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Posted 30 August 2004 - 08:42 PM

Minis - amazing there is still a waiting list for them.

Overpriced go karts. Did you buy them shortly after launch when quality control was worse than it is now?

As for sensors, one needs to be put over each wheel so that WOMEN would think twice before kerbing the thing.

Never had the pleasure of owning a Citroen Visa. Seen any about of have they all rotted? The GTi verson looked good. Taken for a spin in my mates 954cc version back in 94. Not nice. Did not have a heated rear window but a rear fog light that hangs on a thread similar to those that hang off the rear of them pristine Japanese coupes and horrible 4x4s.
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Posted 01 September 2004 - 09:34 AM

My Visa came wit hthe Tuff-Kote Dinol anti-rust treatment system (what happened to that?) and when I sold it at 4 years old in 1985, there was no sign of rust anywhere on it - the mechanic who serviced it thought it should last almost for ever if it was looked after by its following owners.
As to bonnets - the problem with the C8 is that yo also have to judge the front taking into account the length of dashboard in front of you, as well as the bonnet. I currently drive a Galaxy which "suffers" from the same problem, and I would not like to try to parallel park without the front and rear sensors which it has. It makes it easier to park than the Scenic I had before (which my wife now drives) and far easier to park than the Rover 820 that I had before the Scenic.
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Posted 01 September 2004 - 07:23 PM

Minis - amazing there is still a waiting list for them.

Overpriced go karts. Did you buy them shortly after launch when quality control was worse than it is now?



Never had the pleasure of owning a Citroen Visa. Seen any about of have they all rotted?

I had two MINIs. The first was a VERY early Factory Demo car on a 2001 Y-plate. This had SOME excuse for unreliability. The second was a 2003 03-plater which was a pile of turd and had no excuse. New gearbox in the first week and novelty electrics of the random kind.

I've had a fair few Visas, including an X-reg Special (652cc) an A-reg CONVERTIBLE!! and a Y-reg GT. Never had a GTi. None of these were particularly rusty, but the best car I've ever owned in terms of fun for the money, negligible running costs and sheer Q-factor was an F-plate 17D. (The brakes were very iffy though!) It cost me 1100 in '97 and I sold it in 2000 with an extra 50,000 miles on the clock for 800!!! Fuel consumption was amazing, and is was capable of just about 100mph if your nerves could stand it. The AX was a far poorer car, and much less safe in a shunt, but it had a cute factor that the dumpy old Visa never had...........

Tron

PS: I had an AXEL once too....... But that's another story!!!
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 06:35 AM

My Visa came wit hthe Tuff-Kote Dinol anti-rust treatment system (what happened to that?) and when I sold it at 4 years old in 1985, there was no sign of rust anywhere on it -

Wow Mr. Tower!!

So your Visa was new in '81? Shame it wasn't the short-lived original shape with the pale grey plastic bumpers and small non-wrapped-around rear lights. The Visa II replaced it within 18 months of launch........ I always fancied a very early one for that 'Ami6' ugliness!

Tuff Kote Dinol became known as "Dinitrol", although the two brands are still extant. The trade name of the company's previous product, Ziebart, is no longer used in these shores, but is still going strong in the States and Canada.
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#14 jeremytaylor

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Posted 16 September 2005 - 04:07 PM

[quote name='tronboy' date='Sep 2 2004, 06:35 AM'] [quote name='Ivor E Tower' date='Sep 1 2004, 09:34 AM']
So your Visa was new in '81? Shame it wasn't the short-lived original shape with the pale grey plastic bumpers and small non-wrapped-around rear lights. The Visa II replaced it within 18 months of launch........ I always fancied a very early one for that 'Ami6' ugliness!

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Yeah, the spirit of the Ami lived on in the early Visas, no doubt
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#15 scimitargtc

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 09:24 PM

Is it possible to get front parking sensors fitted as well as rear ones, to make parking easy?


OLD forum request I know but as I have just fitted them to my Fiat Ulysse........... 4 sensor kit rears fitted OK fronts fitted after removal (a bit convoluted & yes the under wing liners DO need to come out) the major prob is where to run the 4 wires into the cabin - cheated for now & rang across the door aperture but not ideal by any stretch.

1 thing my kit has a connection to brake lights which switch on the fronts for as long as you depress the brake pedal, rears are the usual selecting reverse gear switch on. Fine if it's an auto but a pain in a manual..... I'm fitting a normally closed relay so the fronts will be on permanently & switched off when reverse is selected & powers up the relay which will select the rears
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